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Lies, Damned Lies and IMDB Top 250
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkgudge
Registered: May 17, 2007
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I was browsing the IMDB top 250 and looking at the rankings, it shows the forula they alledge to use to work out the rankings, something did not look right though.

Godfather has lower ratings and votes than the Shawshank Redemption but is placed at number 2! WTF?

I checked the top ten and they all looked very suspicious....

So I created a little spreadsheet and stuffed in the data and used their formula to calculate the ranking and got a completely different set of results....here is the top ten ranked by arithmetic mean.

IMDB      IMDB Title                                                                  # Votes
Ranking  Waited
            Results
2 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994)           264,774
4 8.8 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966)             67,862
5 8.8 Pulp Fiction (1994)                                           227,265
8 8.8 Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back (1980)           165,832
19 8.7 The Usual Suspects (1995)                           161,564
3 8.9 The Godfather: Part II (1974)                           126,808
18 8.7 Goodfellas (1990)                                           120,675
11 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975)           113,831
41 8.4 Léon (1994)                                             98,334
17 8.7 Cidade de Deus (2002)                                             71,066
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkgudge
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Top 10 by user rating (again using their formula)

IMDB Ranking IMDB Waited Results Title # Votes
2 9.1 The Shawshank Redemption (1994) 264,774
1 9.1 The Godfather (1972) 222,853
3 8.9 The Godfather: Part II (1974) 126,808
5 8.8 Pulp Fiction (1994) 227,265
4 8.8 Buono, il brutto, il cattivo, Il (1966) 67,862
10 8.8 The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King (2003) 204,196
12 8.7 Star Wars (1977) 204,102
8 8.8 Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) 165,832
6 8.8 Schindler's List (1993) 155,648
11 8.8 One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (1975) 113,831
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkgudge
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PM me if you want the spreadsheet.

Sorry about the formatting, forms and data don't mix.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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Only regular voters (whatever that is) are included in the ranking. Besides, they never reveal exactly how they calculate the ratings to prevent vote stuffing.

Ratings Explained

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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantkgudge
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The formula used for the top 250 is shown at tyhe bottom of the top 250 listing........
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantlmoelleb
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting kgudge:
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The formula used for the top 250 is shown at tyhe bottom of the top 250 listing........

The following is written twice on the page:
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For this top 250, only votes from regular voters are considered.


The vote count in the table match the vote count on the movie details - hence I am inclined to think this vote count is the total - regular as well as non regular voters included.
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Lars
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